3 Podcasters Walk in a Bar Episode 26 The Guys Discussing Independent Journalism, Freedom of Speech.
3 Podcasters Walk Into a Bar: Episode 26 – Discussing Independent Journalism, Freedom of Speech, and the Future of Podcasting.
In this podcast episode, Stuart Turley, David Blackmon, and Rey Trevino discuss the importance of independent journalism, highlighting Tucker Carlson’s move to Twitter and the future of news reporting. They touch on the decline of legacy media platforms, the role of podcasting in reaching diverse audiences, and the significance of freedom of speech. The hosts share their experiences interviewing thought leaders from various industries and express their willingness to engage in open conversations about renewable energy, geopolitics, and more. They also mention their podcast’s high scores and engagement levels.
Bullet Points:
– The podcast episode features a discussion on independent journalism, focusing on Tucker Carlson’s transition to Twitter and the evolving landscape of news reporting.
– The decline of traditional media platforms and the growing influence of podcasting in reaching diverse audiences are highlighted.
– The importance of freedom of speech and open conversations about topics such as renewable energy and geopolitics is emphasized.
– The hosts share their experiences interviewing thought leaders from different industries.
– The podcast boasts high engagement levels and scores, showcasing its popularity among listeners.
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Highlights of the Podcast
The guys are back at it today.
00:00 – Intro
03:18– Talks about Tucker Carlson
11:47 – executives from oil and gas companies and trade associations and subject matter experts, analysts from companies like in various.
14:25 – Talks about Governor Abbott and Elon Musk
17:58 – Talks about Rolling Blackouts
20:24 – Legislation in Texas passed a couple of billion to put in and natural gas plants to back the grid up
22:32 – Social Issues
27:02– Outro
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3 Podcasters Walk in a Bar Episode 26 The Guys Discussing Independent Journalism, Freedom of Speech.
Stuart Turley [00:00:13] Hello, everybody you ever had that crazy uncle at a family party? And he says these three guys walk into a bar. I got two of them compadres right here. My name’s Stuart Turley, president, CEO of the Sandstone Group.
Stuart Turley [00:00:30] We got the three podcasters walk into a bar podcast where we cover energy and solve the world’s problems. I’ve got coming around the corner the David Blackmon. David Blackmon is a Forbes contributing author, and I mean that Rascals got the Energy Question podcast.
Stuart Turley [00:00:51] He’s on Substack he’s got the energy absurdity today, and I’m having a pass out because he’s also got another podcast with the Energy Transition Weekly Welcome!
David Blackmon [00:01:03] Thank you. Thank you. It’s a beautiful, fabulous rainy day in Texas.
Stuart Turley [00:01:07] Oh, fantastic next, let’s go to RT. RT is in the beautiful town of Houston, Texas. RT is the podcast host for Are you ready? It is The Crude Truth. I mean, that rascal is boring in a crude truth all around and Google loves your website doesn’t it RT you’re also a big dog over that MP operating company Paco’s operating. Welcome!
Rey Trevino [00:01:40] Oh, good, good, Good day. Good morning. Good evening. Hello everybody. Thank you as always for listening. And yes, I guess so. I’m pretty excited that if you type in the crude truth, I’m at the top. Who would have ever thought it?
Rey Trevino [00:01:54] And that was just done by by the group at Sandstone and the secret is there you know Stuart Turley in his group over Sandstone group and can share that secret with anybody out there that’s listening as well. But yeah no it’s I guess it’s it ran in their DFW today David?
David Blackmon [00:02:12] It is it love I managed if you’re in Houston you’re probably getting flooded, aren’t you?
Rey Trevino [00:02:17] It’s I’m looking out the window as we speak and yeah it’s a good day I’m up but I’m on the 15th floor right now, so I’m okay.
David Blackmon [00:02:25] You’re safe.
Stuart Turley [00:02:25] You’re.
Rey Trevino [00:02:26] Okay.
Stuart Turley [00:02:27] Hey, I used to work in Houston and I didn’t like it when you had the cockroach so big, you had to put a leash on ending things and take him for a walk every day. Man.
Stuart Turley [00:02:37] I even had one and went out and got my beer I mean, that was absolutely like, Hey, Ralph, go get my beer. And he’s like, okay. Because he’d grab a ham sandwich in there that was big cockroaches.
Rey Trevino [00:02:50] It’s funny.
David Blackmon [00:02:51] Big cockroach.
Rey Trevino [00:02:53] Well, Houston’s a darn big town, and I had several meetings, one at five yesterday and then one again at seven in the evening yesterday. And just get turned around in this giant ad and so a shout out to everybody that lives in Houston and knows how to work this traffic on a daily basis, shout out to all of them out there.
Stuart Turley [00:03:12] And all the pets that are cockroaches. All right. Hey, guys, We got an action-packed show at the bar today. I want to give a shout-out to Tucker Carlson here and he has brought up a lot of fantastic things.
Stuart Turley [00:03:28] He has kind of really exposed the media and really has shined a light on the importance of independent journalists and our podcasts are independent journalists trying to get the word out about energy and a very sensible way to take care of humanity. I mean, let’s take care of the environment. Let’s not be stupid. Well, I have a hard time doing that.
Stuart Turley [00:04:01] But with him going, I want to know what you guys think with him going to Ellen and him, he’s bringing in his show to Twitter now. How outstanding is that? And I just want to give a shout-out to Ellen for being on Twitter. But on the other hand, you know, also the African oh, what’s his name? He is phenomenal the reporter from Africa that’s been shunned by the.
David Blackmon [00:04:34] Oh, yeah, from Nigeria that the press secretary won’t ever call on during the press briefing.
Stuart Turley [00:04:40] I love him. I mean, he is phenomenal anyway, what do you guys think about independent journalism as it’s much needed now?
David Blackmon [00:04:52] Well, you know, I think it’s it’s great. I think it’s the future of news reporting in America as all these legacy platforms die while they are dying because their audience is going away and Carlsen moving to Twitter, That’s I mean, my gosh, Fox News ratings are already off by 25% since the idiots fired him.
David Blackmon [00:05:17] And him going to Twitter and competing with them is only going to cause them to fall further. If you look at the cable news rankings, MSNBC actually had higher ratings than Fox did in prime time. And that hasn’t happened in a long, long time.
Stuart Turley [00:05:41] Wow!
David Blackmon [00:05:42] It’s a big deal.
Stuart Turley [00:05:42] I know that. Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:05:45] Yeah, I didn’t know that either.
David Blackmon [00:05:46] Yeah and CNN, you know, if it had to be profitable, CNN would have been out of business ten years ago. But it’s a subsidiary of whatever is it, AT&T, I guess, And that big overarching corporation. Use CNN’s operation is a loss leader that attracts advertisers woke advertisers like CNN. So, you know, it stays on the air, but no one should pretend that CNN is. As a stand-alone in any way profitable because it is.
Stuart Turley [00:06:20] Wow!
Rey Trevino [00:06:22] Well, you know, isn’t journalism already supposed to be independent? Like, isn’t that part of what we do?
David Blackmon [00:06:30] Well, it was supposed to be yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:06:32] It’s supposed to be. I’m going to say this, that, you know, after going back and watching some of the other MSNBC or CNN one of them basically called Tucker stupid on air, saying he was stupid and reckless. Stupid and reckless for saying what he said. And I guess my first question is, what happened to freedom of speech? Okay.
Rey Trevino [00:06:57] And because he believes 110% that whatever it is that he said is true. And not to get off on a tangent here, but that is no different than a man that believes he is a woman right now to say I am a woman and we have to take it at his word that he is a woman, that it is true.
Rey Trevino [00:07:19] So I could that’s a very valid argument right there. And the fact that Fox had to pay seven hurt nearly $1,000,000,000, $750 million to settle this, and they let go of their number one advertiser. And then for them to say that they weren’t even really getting the viewers that they wanted at that 7:00 hour, but yet it was the most viewed hour.
Rey Trevino [00:07:51] I don’t see how that’s Tucker’s fault and that it wasn’t like that. How is it his fault that they weren’t getting the viewers that they wanted when they made sure that the Mypillow commercial is on every other commercial? Okay.
Rey Trevino [00:08:05] So, you know, they’re making a dollar transitioning now to Elon Musk. He is a he’s a businessman. The former owners of Twitter are not business savvy. And guess what I see here now, the advertising dollars that they will now go publicly live at 7:00 or whatever time.
Rey Trevino [00:08:26] And then guess what it is now going to be than out there for real easy access. I know sometimes when I got to pull a clip from Fox News, I got to go dig on the website to find it for them and put it up wherever I want it, not to mention my folks recorded Tucker, so they got to watch it when they could. That could possibly bring a whole new audience to Twitter. I don’t.
David Blackmon [00:08:52] Know. It will. Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:08:53] And you know.
Stuart Turley [00:08:55] I’m not on. Right, RT you’re right.
Rey Trevino [00:08:57] Yeah, so he could.
Stuart Turley [00:09:00] Can I say that?
Rey Trevino [00:09:03] But getting back to it, freedom of speech all is a true thing. And it is in our Constitution. I understand that there’s slander and there’s a liability or whatever it is, but those are there’s also a gray area for that stuff.
Rey Trevino [00:09:17] So it’s a shame that Fox did what they did. It really shows where we are as a nation when it comes to us getting our news. And I think podcasting is going to be part of the future.
Rey Trevino [00:09:30] In fact, a quick little shameless plug. I did a great episode on The Crude Truth with a lady named Sarah Critchley, who’s vice president over at Real News Public Relations. And they understand it and that, hey, a majority of people, 35 and younger, watch and listen to a lot of podcast individuals that are are that are older than that. They’re learning stuff while they’re on the golf course, you know.
Rey Trevino [00:09:59] And it’s like, oh, man, I got to read and listen to this oil and gas podcast today. And they’re taking notes while they’re playing golf on the golf course. So hard casting is a mobile thing that they can listen to and learn. And hopefully, you know, people can learn something and maybe get a little piece of information from three podcasters walking into a bar.
Rey Trevino [00:10:20] God knows they get it whenever they listen to the Energy Question With David Blackmon or The Energy Stand Up with Michael Tanner and Stuart Turley. So I think podcasting is part of the future and I think Elon Musk understands that and so does Tucker Carlson. So bravo to that.
Stuart Turley [00:10:38] You know, David and I have really appreciated you guys, but I know we do have all of us have an open invitation to anybody that wants to come on our podcast. As an industry thought leader visit us. We all deal in facts.
Stuart Turley [00:10:59] So if you can bring facts and you want to talk about renewable, you want to talk about nuclear, you want to talk about anything, even geopolitical or even political, Now I’m all in come on by. Just reach out to us and we’ll talk.
David Blackmon [00:11:20] Yeah, I you know, I and I’ve interviewed executives, CEOs from, gosh, three different battery makers, a lithium mining company, a lithium extraction company, a nuclear company, and about to interview a CEO from a geothermal company next month.
Stuart Turley [00:11:45] Nice.
David Blackmon [00:11:46] In addition to, you know, executives from oil and gas companies and trade associations and subject matter experts, analysts from companies like in Enverus. And, you know, we just tried to present the whole spectrum on that podcast and do it in a way that’s non-confrontational and allows the guest to, you know, get the most out of the appearance, which is what the goal is.
David Blackmon [00:12:14] And it’s been a model that works. Okay. I think it’s done pretty well. I’m not the best interviewer in the world to freely admit that, but I do get some good guests who are very, very eloquent and very adept at laying things out.
Stuart Turley [00:12:33] I’m going to give a shout-out to all three of us our podcast scores are up in the nineties, to 96% range for time on either time page with the transcripts and or listen to scores or its quality and how much has been listened in the podcast. It’s pretty cool. Yeah.
David Blackmon [00:13:04] Yeah, yeah. I find that that score goes down after you get past 30 minutes though, right? If I go over time, it’s not great. People start signing off
Stuart Turley [00:13:15] It does depend on as Biden has depends on all the time.
David Blackmon [00:13:24] Yeah it’s hard though those 30 minutes go fast man. I just recorded an episode with Tammy Nemeth and you know who’s on the Energy Transition podcast with us and man it it felt like 5 minutes.
David Blackmon [00:13:41] And Armando Cabana two I just recorded one with end Same thing, man you get you look down and time’s almost up and you, you feel like you’ve just gotten started.
David Blackmon [00:13:50] So that’s, you know, that’s just motivation to have them on again, you know, and in the weeks to come. But it’s tough. It’s tough getting everything out of 30 minutes.
Stuart Turley [00:14:00] You bet. And now RT you’ve had some political folks on there and you got to meet the governor, I mean, you had a picture with a governor. So now that you’re the official, bona fide podcast host, you can get an audience with the governor. It’s pretty cool.
Rey Trevino [00:14:18] I’d be great if I could. I’d like to, Governor, have it on the crude truth for sure. So if he’s listening, which I’m sure he is, you know, because all the important people listen to three podcasters walk into a bar, definitely invite the governor out to come on to the show and just talk about how he’s continuing to fight the administration to protect the oil and gas jobs and protect oil and more importantly, to protect our economy.
Rey Trevino [00:14:45] You know, and right now, I think we got to be protecting our grid you know, just kind of transition here for a minute, you know? But before I do, though, I just can’t say it enough. Freedom of speech is very important. So thank you again to everybody that just listens to us. Hopefully could agree or not agree. But the point is, we can talk about.
David Blackmon [00:15:07] I’m raising my hand. I want to say something about Governor Abbott if that’s okay.
Rey Trevino [00:15:12] Oh, please do.
David Blackmon [00:15:13] He was in Rob’s town, Texas, on Wednesday, this week, or Tuesday of this week. He rode with Elon Musk, with Elon Musk doing a grand opening for a lithium processing plant that Tesla is building in Robb’s town, Texas, and to create hundreds of good-paying jobs.
David Blackmon [00:15:33] And and it’s, you know, a Texas business that Tesla has become undeniably. And it’s going to be you know we talk about telling the story of the whole energy space. We have to have lithium. You have to have lithium for the batteries, for the electric vehicles, and battery backup for wind and solar power because there’s no other viable technology out there right now.
David Blackmon [00:15:57] And I just wanted to give kudos to Governor Abbott and Elon Musk for making that investment in Texas. It’s a half-billion dollar plant that’s going to provide hundreds of good paying jobs and produce a product that is desperately needed to do, you know, to facilitate electric vehicles if we’re going to transition to them.
David Blackmon [00:16:20] We have to have the lithium for the batteries. So I just think that’s something that’s commendable. And we should be grateful that Elon Musk is investing billions of dollars in the state of Texas.
Stuart Turley [00:16:33] I’m very grateful for Elon. I’d have his kids.
David Blackmon [00:16:37] I’m more grateful to him for Twitter. I will say that but good for him on testing it
Rey Trevino [00:16:42] David, what’s your what is your Twitter like for on Twitter? What is your Twitter handle or whatever it’s called?
David Blackmon [00:16:48] My Twitter handle is Energy Absurdity, which is why so many people can’t find me they go look for my name and that’s not out there.
Rey Trevino [00:16:58] In their mine is Truth underscore Crude and I guess a crude truth is already taken and but that’s mine Truth underscore Crude.
Stuart Turley [00:17:08] Mine is StuartTurley16.
David Blackmon [00:17:11] 16, 16 There’s that many Stuart Turleys on Twitter?
Stuart Turley [00:17:18] I don’t know.
David Blackmon [00:17:19] Man that’s amazing.
Stuart Turley [00:17:21] It’s actually my mental state, as in years.
David Blackmon [00:17:29] Your IQ? Is that what you said?
Stuart Turley [00:17:33] Now you’re talking. Yeah. Okay. My name’s Stu Pid Turley. My middle name is PID.
David Blackmon [00:17:42] It’s terrible. Terrible. Stu, come on now.
Rey Trevino [00:17:46] Well, I’ll tell you this. Transitioning over here. We’re getting into the summer, and I’ve been reading a few reports that they’re already hedging against letting us know that we could have rolling blackouts this summer. and, you know, I was at a meeting at lunch yesterday, and one of the gaggles. Oh, they’re just hedging like they’re just covering their bases.
Rey Trevino [00:18:09] And I didn’t say anything was like, no, no, they’re not like they are. Yes, but no, be ready when we give in late July, or early August when it’s that good old Texas heat of 100 degrees, there’ll be some rolling blackouts. And they, David, have said to before and I’ll let him take it from here in a second, but I don’t remember having this problem when I was growing up in the late eighties, early nineties. And the reason why is that we’re transitioning more and more to wind and solar for our power grid.
David Blackmon [00:18:37] Yeah, I mean, there’s no doubt about that. You know, people try to talk around it in a hundred different ways. But yeah, we never had a problem with blackouts when we were growing up. And yeah, but it was different it was not this capacity market that we have now and you know, it, it, you, you can’t force these generators to build reliable generating capacity, unfortunately. And our system hasn’t our market-based system hasn’t created the market signals to encourage them to build reliable thermal generation capacity and really can’t get new nuclear permitted anymore.
David Blackmon [00:19:25] And so, yeah, I mean, the governor, to be critical of him now likes to boast about all the additional capacity coming onto the grid here in recent years. But it’s pretty much all solar at this point with with some wind sprinkled in. And, you know, at the end of the day, we still, in an emergency, don’t have anything like the backup generating capacity we need for that really, hot days and severe winter events.
David Blackmon [00:19:53] And so, yeah, our job has to hedge its bets by saying, well, we could have blackouts in certain circumstances. And, you know, I mean, they said the same thing before last summer and we got through the summer, thankfully, although we came close a few days in August, hopefully, we can squeeze through it again this summer.
Stuart Turley [00:20:14] Yeah, I got a problem squeezing through with my waistline hey, I noticed the other day that didn’t the legislator in legislation in Texas passed for a couple billion to put in and natural gas plants to back the grid up.
David Blackmon [00:20:32] No, no. Yeah, well, so a bill passed the Senate that would provide tax incentives, property tax incentives, rebates, or abatements excuse me for companies that build new thermal capacity, but it hasn’t passed the House and it’ll probably get killed in the state Affairs Committee like everything else goes to die. That’s good.
Rey Trevino [00:20:54] Well, but isn’t that part of, like, the whole deal where it’s like they’ll give the corporations these tax property tax cuts, But yet here they were talking about giving us all here in Texas a property tax cut with the billions that oil and gas generate. And yet they’re really not looking to do that either, right, David?
David Blackmon [00:21:15] Well, they are. I mean, there are two competing plans there’s a Senate plan in the House plan. And at some point, there’s going to have to be a meeting of the minds between the speaker and the lieutenant governor on what the full legislative plan is going to look like. And.
Stuart Turley [00:21:34] Wow,.
David Blackmon [00:21:34] You know, they’ll pass something if they don’t. I am very confident, Governor Abbott, again, speaking to you, that you will call a special session in the heat of the summer and tell them to stay there as long as it takes to get a property tax cut done for individuals. And he’s promised to do that. So hopefully it’ll follow through.
Stuart Turley [00:22:02] Gov. Yeah. Yeah. I got you three podcasts you want to come on three individuals. Oh, and he’s going to roll into town guys. He’s all in.
David Blackmon [00:22:12] Yeah. And be expecting his limousine anytime soon.
Rey Trevino [00:22:17] Yeah. You talk about first of all David, your show with Jason Magellan has been huge that you guys can sit there and kind of break down What’s been going on. I’m hearing rumors already that all the congressmen in the state Senate have already mentally prepared for a special session. That’s a rumor I’m hearing.
David Blackmon [00:22:39] Yeah there’s they’re spending so much time on these social issues that they’re in danger of not getting the actual business of the state done and you know that.
Rey Trevino [00:22:50] Isn’t that interesting that these social issues that are really first-world problems are the things that are tying up the actual stuff that we need to get done?
David Blackmon [00:22:59] Yeah, I mean, it really is an unfortunate LA that seems to be an increasing affliction in every subsequent session. You know, the legislature has only a few obligations that it has to get done in every session. And unfortunately, it feels like with every new session, they spend less and less time on what their obligations actually are and more and more time on all this elective stuff.
David Blackmon [00:23:32] You know, let’s just call it that. I. I’m not saying some of this isn’t important, but you have to prioritize what you’re doing down there in Austin because you only have 140 days to get it done. And it’s a lot. And. It just seems some priorities are out of whack.
Stuart Turley [00:23:52] I would agree with that. That was my middle name. Pid Talking and hey, we got about three more minutes each. R.T., tell us your thoughts. What’s coming around the corner for this week? And you.
Rey Trevino [00:24:08] Oh, man. Well, I’m just excited, you know, We’ll see. We’re all I’m excited to see where all this fallout goes off releasing all of President Biden’s financial dealings with China over the last 20 years. I’m pretty sure it’s not going to go anywhere, considering I think two out of the three major news sources are not even really talking about it. But, you know, I think there’s a way that they’ll be able to get out of it. Very interesting that they were able to get their cut in any form or fashion, even while he was vice president.
Rey Trevino [00:24:39] So that’ll be something just fun to watch on TV. The Tucker Carlson saga is also going to be something I’m going like to watch out for in the field up in north Texas now we’ve been getting ready for the past week. So, you know, you don’t have the roads like we have in West Texas. My youngest brother is always giving me a hard time going. You need to get the roads better up there. And like we have out here in West Texas, and I’m like, well, you know, maybe one day, but so I’ll be still working and probably doing a little bit more travel.
Rey Trevino [00:25:08] But I’m excited I’ve got an I’ve got some great guests coming on here real soon. I just dropped another episode of The Crude Truth. I’ve got to I think I said it last week. They’re pretty crowded. Get ready to come on. The Robert Bryce episode is going to drop here real soon as well. So I’m just very excited. And also, hey, we’re getting ready for summer. It’s May. Let’s go. It’s time to get the summer tango. So very excited.
David Blackmon [00:25:35] I’m looking forward to that. Robert Brush up so that guy’s fantastic.
Rey Trevino [00:25:39] Yeah I know what you just thought is.
Stuart Turley [00:25:43] Yes, He’s a cool dude it was very nice of him and Meredith that’s already rocking down on the downloads. I was kind of surprised by that. Yeah. David, what’s coming around the corner for you?
David Blackmon [00:25:56] Oh, man. I’m just keeping my head down and writing and podcasting and substack and. And trying to stay busy and make a little money. You know, it’s getting harder and harder all the time. With prices going up, I know for most people, it gets harder and harder, and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down. So I’m just trying to keep plowing ahead.
Stuart Turley [00:26:19] But, you know, the year substack is worth the money. So, you know, I pay for it just so I can steal your material. But.
David Blackmon [00:26:32] There you go
Stuart Turley [00:26:32] College, I recommend corporate sponsorships and everything else. So. With that.
David Blackmon [00:26:39] Somebody told me the other day I put too much on my substack that’s free. And I said, Well, how are you supposed to put these? These podcasts are the energy absurdities of the day behind a paywall. I’m not going to do it and make any sense. So, you know, whatever.
Rey Trevino [00:27:00] whatever, whatever.
Stuart Turley [00:27:02] Boy when my wife says, Whatever I run, I go. I go straight to the lake house. All right, guys. Hey, we will see everybody next time. How do you get a hold of all of this in the show notes? Please. We want to hear from you. We want you on our podcast. If you have something to say in the energy space or even funny we want to hear from you.