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3 Podcasters Walk in a Bar Episode 27 – They talked about Battling Silly Outbursts and Policy Wars..


3 Podcasters Walk in a Bar Episode 27 – They talked about Battling Silly Outbursts and Policy Wars.

3 Podcasters Walk into a Bar – EP 27 Battling Silly Outbursts and Policy Wars in the Energy Industry

In this podcast episode, Stuart Turley, David Blackmon, and Rey Trevino discuss the importance of independent journalism, highlighting Tucker Carlson’s move to Twitter and the future of news reporting. They touch on the decline of legacy media platforms, the role of podcasting in reaching diverse audiences, and the significance of freedom of speech. The hosts share their experiences interviewing thought leaders from various industries and express their willingness to engage in open conversations about renewable energy, geopolitics, and more. They also mention their podcast’s high scores and engagement levels.

Bullet Points:

– The podcast episode features a discussion on independent journalism, focusing on Tucker Carlson’s transition to Twitter and the evolving landscape of news reporting.

– The decline of traditional media platforms and the growing influence of podcasting in reaching diverse audiences are highlighted.

– The importance of freedom of speech and open conversations about topics such as renewable energy and geopolitics is emphasized.

– The hosts share their experiences interviewing thought leaders from different industries.

– The podcast boasts high engagement levels and scores, showcasing its popularity among listeners.


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Highlights of the Podcast

The guys are back at it today.

Bullet Points:

– Climate change: The need for immediate action to combat climate change has become more urgent than ever. Rising temperatures, extreme weather events, and melting ice caps are clear signs of the crisis we face.

– Renewable energy: The transition to renewable energy sources such as solar, wind, and hydropower is gaining momentum globally. These clean energy alternatives offer sustainable and environmentally friendly solutions to meet our energy needs.

– Technological advancements: Rapid advancements in technology have opened up new possibilities in various fields, including artificial intelligence, biotechnology, and renewable energy. These innovations have the potential to transform industries and improve our quality of life.

– Global connectivity: The advent of the internet and digital communication has connected people from all corners of the globe. This interconnectedness has facilitated the exchange of ideas, knowledge, and cultures, bringing the world closer together.

– Social activism: In recent years, social activism has gained prominence as people become more aware of social and environmental issues. Movements advocating for equality, justice, and sustainability have sparked important conversations and influenced positive change in society.


With 3 unique personalities, backgrounds, and one horrible team sense of humor, it makes for fun talks around the energy markets.

David Blackmon is a Forbes author and currently writes Energy Absurdities of the Day. He has several active podcasts with ….. His industry leadership is evident, but a dry, calm way of expressing himself adds a different twist.

R.T. Trevillon is the podcast host of The Crude Truth filmed in Fort Worth Texas and runs an oil and gas E&P company. Pecos Country Operating has been in business for ….years and has a constant commitment to all of their stakeholders and is actively working in this oil and gas market.

Stu Turley is the co-podcast host of the Energy News Beat Podcast. While Stu is a legend in his own mind,

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3 Podcasters Walk in a Bar Episode 27 – They talked about Battling Silly Outbursts and Policy Wars..


Stuart Turley [00:00:03] Hello Everybody, Do you ever have that uncle walk-in into a family reunion and sit there and go, I got these three guys walking into a bar and everybody runs for cover because you know, a lousy joke is coming around the corner. I got those other two guys, there are 3 guys who walk into a bar podcast thanks for stopping in and we are going to have an absolutely outstanding time. First, around the corner, we got R.T. He’s one of them head dogs over there PACO’s Operating. He is the podcast host for The Crude Truth, Welcome R.T. How are you?

Ray Trevino [00:00:39] Doing well, thank you, thank you. Hello, Everybody, Good Morning, Good Evening, Good Afternoon, I hope everybody’s having a fantastic day.

Stuart Turley [00:00:46] You know, We have to do that because we’re now in, I think, 35 different countries right now. So we got to give a shout-out to our listeners. And we got coming around the corner like a real true racehorse, not like one of them that are dying in races over there he’s still alive.

Stuart Turley [00:01:03] We got David Blackmon he’s a Forbes contributing author, he’s a Daily Caller author, he’s a podcast host of The Energy Question, and he’s also a podcast host on the Energy Transition International, available everywhere. All of our podcasts, Mine is Energy News Beat are available everywhere, thank you for that commercial, Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.

Stuart Turley [00:01:26] David Coming around the corner, you have a heck of an article this morning, Silly Outburst from the Green Globalists and I mean this is a hoot U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Gutierrez let’s hear what you were thinking when you wrote.

David Blackmon [00:01:46] Oh, yeah. Well, you know he’s he makes a habit of going off on the oil and gas industry with really ridiculous, hyperbolic rhetoric. This time he’s accusing all companies that invest in carbon capture and storage projects is wanted to become more efficient at burning up the earth. And hes criticizing proponents of oil and gas for wanting to rely on wishful thinking and unproven technologies.

David Blackmon [00:02:18] This is a man I want to remind everyone, this is a man who spends a lot of his time praising wind and solar and other renewable solutions. Now, what more wishful thinking and unproven technologies are there in wind and solar and electric vehicles?.

David Blackmon [00:02:41] We’ve been told for 30 years, more than 30 years, that a new step change in battery technology is just around the corner. Billions are being spent on research and it’s just around the corner. It’s going to be the miracle solution to all our energy problems.

David Blackmon [00:02:59] And here we are today, 30 years later, and it’s still just around the corner it’s never coming. And, you know, they’re still relying on lithium ion and I it’s just mind boggling to me. This is a silly man who shouldn’t be in the job he’s in is not a serious person. And how can we expect the U.N. to be a serious organization when is led by a very silly, silly man and I’m just sick of him. So yeah, I went off on him a little bit.

Stuart Turley [00:03:34] R.T What do you think? I think the WHO, Not the band The World Economic Forum and the U.N. and about three or four others need to be all thrown out of the United States and run out of town. But, R.T. What are you thinking about that?

Ray Trevino [00:03:52] Well, about what you just said, I haven’t done enough research to really say whether or not I want to kick the United Nations out of office. But getting back to David’s article, what a great article. You know, one thing and I will say this you got to be, I guess, politically correct these days sometimes and I’ll do my best right now.

Ray Trevino [00:04:19] And that is, I think, a lot of individuals, a lot of policymakers that make policy and energy and more importantly, that make policy in oil and gas have no idea and have no experience in the industry they’re making policy for might as well call him the Hunter Biden’s of the oil and gas industry.

Ray Trevino [00:04:45] You know, we have some very, very smart individuals that are not officially the ones that make policy that may be able to give their $0.02 worth, but it’s probably worth the whole dollar. But policymakers only see it as $0.02. So I want to shout out to all those individuals and they know who they are that are the ones that are actually fighting for the policies that are right.

Ray Trevino [00:05:12] I don’t know what’s going on, I don’t know why they continue to praise alternative energy sources that are not proven. You know, here I am, almost 40 so it’s been my entire lifetime that we are supposed to be in a different we’re supposed to have flying cars by now, we’re supposed to all be cleaning beautiful air and guess what? We are.

Ray Trevino [00:05:35] You know, I’ve said here before, we don’t worry about acid rain anymore. America is one of we were turned out people, America is one of the cleanest places on the planet Okay? We have giant skyscraper buildings with less smog in those major cities than anywhere else in the world. As far as walks….

Stuart Turley [00:05:55] Except in many big cities R.T. and it’s not due to energy, Sorry, I had to throw that out.

Ray Trevino [00:06:02] There you go. So, anyway, Mr. Gutierrez hey, good for him that once again, he’s got somebody to talk about him. And on a total side note, Mr. Blackmon is this Daily Caller thing new with you?

David Blackmon [00:06:16] Yeah, it’s. Yeah, it is new. It’s something I’ve been working on for a while, and, you know, I’ve been sending him columns for three or four months now. But yeah, we just entered into a more formal arrangement here last week and, you know, it’s. I’m not stopping anything else I was doing, but it’s just another platform for me to express my thoughts.

Ray Trevino [00:06:42] Congratulations! And I was, I was about to feel like a terrible I, you know, we’re friends and that’s like a terrible one if you’ve been right on the Daily Caller here but I was like, wait a minute, is this thing new? So Congratulations on that. Mr. Blackmon.

David Blackmon [00:06:55] Thank you.

Stuart Turley [00:06:56] David take a second give a shout out to your new sponsor of the Energy Question that was pretty cool news.

Ray Trevino [00:07:03] Yeah.

David Blackmon [00:07:03] We have a sponsor now The US Oil and Gas Association is coming in as a sponsor for for my podcast The Energy Question real to death it’s Man, I’ve been involved with you, soldier, uh, of gas for 25 years and one way or another, I was always sure to make sure of the companies I worked for were members of a very effective association in Washington. And Tim Stewart, the CEO there is a great guy and does fantastic work for the industry so I’m really thrilled to have them coming in as a sponsor.

Stuart Turley [00:07:44] Cool.

Ray Trevino [00:07:44] That’s awesome and please let Mr. Scott, he said Tim What?

David Blackmon [00:07:50] Tim Stewart.

Ray Trevino [00:07:51] Tim Stewart of Let Mr Stewart know that he has an open invitation to talk on The Crude Truth anytime he’d like.

David Blackmon [00:07:58] I will do that. I’m sure he’ll come talk with you man, He’s really good. I’ve interviewed him twice on my podcast. He does fantastic work, no one knows more about what’s happening in DC than Tim does.

Ray Trevino [00:08:13] Very nice. I like that

Stuart Turley [00:08:15] That was great. R.T What story did you have coming around the corner.

Ray Trevino [00:08:19] Man he would. Oh, I can’t even talk this morning, gentlemen.

David Blackmon [00:08:24] Spit it out. Spit it Ray come on.

Ray Trevino [00:08:27] I have a case of the Biden this morning.

David Blackmon [00:08:33] asdafgdfshdfhherh!

Ray Trevino [00:08:36] Oh, man, I wanted to just highlight again for those out there. I have my own Substack is called The Crude Truth. Of course, You know, Stu has one called the Energy News Beat and David, we all know David Blackmon with the Energy Absurdity.

Ray Trevino [00:08:56] So anyway, my my story I wanted to highlight is the fact that this administration is continuing to push the even micro war or side war against natural gas. You know, we’ve had individuals like David and Dr. Ireland from TCU really highlighting this war against natural gas and banning natural gas stove. Well, they’re now going after the furnaces and they’re really close to burying those and I think it’s going to be an executive order it’s not even going to be regulation don’t quote me on that.

Ray Trevino [00:09:32] I think it’s an executive order, which is terrible. I mean, you know, it’s just again, it’s just a hurting era, and again, President Trump did them, President Obama, President Bush, every President since I think Bush has just done more than the last President okay. So before you know, anybody thinking that you know, President Biden does these are this President Trump. But..

David Blackmon [00:09:59] But I will point out that Biden has done more of them than those other Presidents you’ve talked about combined.

Ray Trevino [00:10:07] Say that again, David.

David Blackmon [00:10:09] Biden has done more executive orders than the previous three presidents combined.

Ray Trevino [00:10:15] Wow! Folks, if I may note, Get out and vote November 20, 2024 that is pertinent leadership right there we ever had before. I did not know that please, somebody if they want to double check. But smart David Blackmon.

David Blackmon [00:10:34] Yes, please double check me I’m right about this

Ray Trevino [00:10:38] And I invite you to double check him because I know he’s right okay, So get out and vote November 20, 2024. Okay, So that’s what they’re doing is they are forcing individuals a lot in the Northeast to change their foreign furnaces partner overnight by 2029, they need to sell a whole different type of protest that most people can’t afford it’s basically like an AC unit getting redone, if I’m correct. You guys know anything about that?

David Blackmon [00:11:06] Yes, absolutely.

Stuart Turley [00:11:09] It’s going to Retrofitting is going to leave a lot of people in the cold more people have died from cold and  I think it is legislation through regulation I’m going to start saying legislation through executive order now. And that is something that should be voted on by Congress and then challenged in the court. I’m sorry, that is something that’s big enough that an executive order should not apply personal opinion.

Ray Trevino [00:11:46] Oh, well, I mean, that’s that’s what we’re doing I mean, that’s why we’re here. We’re trying to give facts and then give our own opinion on those facts. I mean, you know, we do got to know the I do believe that we got to do the for the who, what, where, when, why and how. And we sit here, guys, and to our listeners, we we do our best to sort the sites and the sources when we can on whatever stories we have because well I think we we’ve talked about it before journalism. It’s a lost art.

Ray Trevino [00:12:16] And, you know, I think the real journalist out of us three is David Blackmon followed by Stu and me, kind of like in that movie, Inglourious Basterds is like, Who speaks most Italian? Well, I know Bob Journo so I guess that makes me know. But but so that that’s where I would come into this.

David Blackmon [00:12:35] I am not a journalist, by the way. I’m a writer, anyway.

Ray Trevino [00:12:39] Excuse me. I apologize he is a writer.

David Blackmon [00:12:43] I’m a writer, I’m not a journalist.

Stuart Turley [00:12:44] And I’m a Game Show Host

David Blackmon [00:12:45] How to be called that?

Stuart Turley [00:12:47] Yeah, I’m a Game Show Host, so, you know.

Ray Trevino [00:12:51] So anyway, guys, this is just, you know, legislation through executive order is something that’s dangerous, that is forcing a lot of individuals. And let’s be clear, this is not going to affect the higher echelon of individuals. This is going to affect the everyday American with inflation the way it is. I don’t see this going away anytime soon.

David Blackmon [00:13:14] No, they’re just going to be doing more and more of these things. It’s it’s crazy. It’s what this administration is doing is incredibly destructive to our economy and our energy security. And yeah, elections matter and and we need to do better in 2024.

Stuart Turley [00:13:31] I’m afraid, guys and let me have your opinion on this but I. I believe that this is also going to be used in the carbon footprint, Digital I.D. that Obama is actually trying to put out. So not only is your digital money going to be tied to your carbon footprint, but if you don’t install $10,000 worth of retrofit to your house, you won’t get any gas.

David Blackmon [00:14:01] Hey, it’s not just not just Obama we have going back to Antonio Guterres.

Stuart Turley [00:14:07] Right.

David Blackmon [00:14:08] He rolled out a very similar proposal this week for a Digital I.D. Globally. And that’s in addition to what? What was the other thing? He, uh. Oh, global censorship rules. Now, on, quote, this information that the U.N. would decide what constitutes disinformation and misinformation a panel to censor it, just like we’ve done in the United States, would.

Stuart Turley [00:14:39] R.T Do you have enough information yet why we need to throw the U.N. out of the United States? Just thought I’d ask.

Ray Trevino [00:14:46] I want to get back to this because, first of all, I’m beginning to wonder if Antonio Gutierrez is nothing more than.. Do you remember that president came and spoke here from Iran a few years back then the Obama administration, and he’s nothing but a puppet for the ayatollah. If I’m correct. I’m beginning to wonder if that’s what Mr. Gutierrez and most of the.

David Blackmon [00:15:12] UN’s coordinating efforts with the WEF on all of this, this is all orchestrated by these global organizations and, you know Gutierez Yeah, he’s he’s a stooge for Klaus Schwab, basically.

Stuart Turley [00:15:26] Absolutely. And Kerry said that several million people need to die every year I have to I saw I read that this morning. And my response on Twitter was Kerry first. I mean, if you think several million people need to die. Kerry, if you’re out there throwing that rock, you first.

Ray Trevino [00:15:43] What? Let’s get back to this carbon footprint Digital ID I have not heard about this at all can you tell me a little bit more about this? I sound like an infomercial. Oh. How do you feel?

Stuart Turley [00:15:59] Go ahead David.

Ray Trevino [00:16:00] No, really.

David Blackmon [00:16:00] I mean, yeah, it’s it’s a digital I.D. would basically be used to track all your financial transactions. You would have to have of. I mean, the other another program they’re pursuing is to install smart meters at every one time so the government can track your energy use the government is installing the ability to shut down automobiles from a central location that’s that’s part of the technology going into every new car in the United States and really globally in recent years.

David Blackmon [00:16:35] It’s all designed to track your carbon footprint and create a social score system like the one that’s been used in China for a decade now. And if you your carbon footprint gets too big, they’re going to penalize you. You’ll lose access to societal privileges and, you know, I mean, this is all part of that scheme and yeah, I guess it’s a conspiracy theory, but it’s real.

Stuart Turley [00:17:08] What’s the difference between Conpiracy theory and fact?

David Blackmon [00:17:14] well about six months?

Ray Trevino [00:17:15] Oh

David Blackmon [00:17:16] 3 to 6 months here in recent years.

Ray Trevino [00:17:19] I have to say this right now, this has nothing to do with tracking your carbon footprint. And here’s my conspiracy. So it has to do is tracking you if anybody out there has never read now I’ve got my copy right over here. Oh, my gosh. I would go. Great. 1984 get out and read it I’ve never read Atlas Shrugged, but I’ve heard that that’s one that I guess I need to start reading it’s a great Book

David Blackmon [00:17:46] A Book everyone should read.

Ray Trevino [00:17:48] Get out and read those books because this is happening. And then you talk about killing vehicles or, you know, having the ability to turn on and off a vehicle. I’m going to embarrass the heck out of myself. I’m still a fan of the 2001 movie Fast and Furious Okay. And yes, they’ve just lost their two I mean hurt near James Bond now okay and well, you know, anyway.

David Blackmon [00:18:19] Yes, it will be the most sequels for any series ever, right? I think.

Ray Trevino [00:18:23] It. Yes, I do. No, no, no. I do think they just broke that record I really do. But there’s one of the movies where they talk about somebody that can control vehicles and, you know, with a remote control from far away. And of course, I think we’ve seen that where people have been able to hack into a vehicle and control it.

Ray Trevino [00:18:44] And then let’s talk about that so there’s one movie let’s go back to 1910 book, 1984, the movie that came out in 1984 called Terminator in the Job here, about the Air Force that just got done doing a simulation where air actually did take over the Air Force, basically demonstration of working out a drone drone. They’ve been canceled that order. The drone then came back, attack the people that canceled that order and then still went and finished its mission that’s Terminator.

Ray Trevino [00:19:21] Now, this was a simulation that the Air Force did that is so there is just crazy. Some of this stuff comes out. Movies that you guys are talking about, you know, track your energy use were there guys, you know, somebody who’s already done it and that’s the scary part.

Stuart Turley [00:19:40] For our podcast listeners. I’m holding up an F-4 Phantom that my dad used in Vietnam 30 years ago, they had this plane flying remotely and using it as target practice when it was about ready to be shot down 30 years ago, guys.

Ray Trevino [00:20:01] My dad’s business partner worked for Lockheed Martin for 40, 50 years, and he said that the technology that is in even our newest planes is 50 years behind the technology that they have. It scared. It’s a good advantage for Americans as a military, but as a whole. It’s scary, right?

Stuart Turley [00:20:28] Hey, guys, we got about 5 to 10 more minutes and we got some great things coming around the corner for the 3 Podcasters. We’d like to thank every one of our listeners Please Subscribe, Like share with your friends. Soon as I can get on the road, we are going to be live in bars and we’re going to really try to have some fun with this so hang tight while we get there. David, give this.

Ray Trevino [00:20:56] I got a question. I got a question. You know, for our listeners, I’m literally raising my hand. Yes, we do need to talk about that off air what you just said about trying to get, you know, trying to schedule something. David Blackmon, you have one of the best Twitter accounts out there. Okay it’s energy.

David Blackmon [00:21:14] Oh, it’s so much fun.

Ray Trevino [00:21:16] You are a professional on there so I’m here you’re here is and still you’re on just as much for the our listeners out there real quick, guys give them your Twitter handles real quick.

David Blackmon [00:21:31] Oh, yeah mine is at Energy Absurdity it’s nobody seems to be able to find it, but I’ve been actually not follow oversaturation.

Stuart Turley [00:21:41] Yeah. Mine’s StuartTurley16 @StuartTurley16 so.

Ray Trevino [00:21:48] Oh, well, I want to do a shameless plug. Here’s my question, guys I am new to Twitter, and for those of you all out there, mine is @Truth_Crude Crude Truth was taken already so it’s truth@_Crude. What is up with some of these people like or like political individuals or, you know people that say they are and then you get to subscribe, get their data. Is that what that is?

David Blackmon [00:22:13] I don’t even know.

Stuart Turley [00:22:14] It is a new money way to make money. It’s a cross between Twitter and Substack. And Substack is one of the best single ways of guaranteeing your end to individual channels because Google is going to shut anybody down with free speech. They are not owned by Ellen. Twitter is being shut down right now because the CEO of Twitter used to be with who? The Economic Forum.

David Blackmon [00:22:48] World Economic Forum.

Stuart Turley [00:22:52] You know, they Charles Schwab, she was the director so people are starting to get banned on even Twitter. You have to own your own channel so you can make money off of Substack. If you’re as smart as David Blackman, if you’re as good looking as R.T, you can have a good one you got to own your own channel. The only way you’re going to survive on Twitter or anything else is to have a following, have subscriptions and make money on your own channels.

Ray Trevino [00:23:27] And if I may. Okay. I was just kind of curious about that because I’m like, I’m not going to pay to see your tweet. Right. However, I’m glad you mentioned Substack and I think for everybody out there shameless plug for for our guy, David Blackman here Please subscribe to his substack.

Ray Trevino [00:23:45] And the reason why is you get access to all of the all his Forbes articles, all his Daily Caller articles that unfortunately, if you’re not a subscriber already to those deals. So I definitely recommend to everybody to definitely subscribe to David Blackmon Substack.

David Blackmon [00:24:03] Sure actually, just one correction there’s no paywall at The Daily Caller that I’m aware of.

Ray Trevino [00:24:09] Oh okay.

David Blackmon [00:24:10] Yeah, there is at Forbes and yeah, I mean, I would encourage people to subscribe at Forbes. There’s a great stable of energy writers at Forbes, not just me, and they really have do a fine job of covering the energy space there.

Ray Trevino [00:24:26] Yeah.

Stuart Turley [00:24:28] All right, David, what’s coming around the corner for this week as we shut down here?

David Blackmon [00:24:34] Oh, man, I’m just blowing and going. I’m just trying to keep my head above water. I also write for the Petroleum Economist, and I have a piece due there tomorrow, so I gotta get going once we finish this up in writing. That one.

Stuart Turley [00:24:49] Hey, for all of our fans, for everybody listening, we appreciate the feedback. We’re going to have all of our contact information in the show notes, send us notes, send us requests if you are an industry thought leader to come in on our individual podcasts. We want to hear from anybody that really wants to have an energy discussion. So with that, say goodbye, guys.

David Blackmon [00:25:17] Adios, folks.

Ray Trevino [00:25:19] Audio Thank you, guys.





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