3 Podcasters Walk into a Bar Live at the Flying Saucer EP 31 – Navigating Energy Horizons: Oil & Gas Perspectives and the Electric Future
In this podcast episode, host Stuart Turley welcomes two guests, Ray Trevino, and David Blackmon. They discuss various topics, including Warren Buffett’s continued investment in oil and gas stocks despite the energy transition narrative, the potential for oil prices to reach $100 per barrel, and the challenges of electric vehicles. The conversation also touches on Texas’s clean oil and gas regulations and a recent incident of an EV cargo ship catching fire. The episode concludes with gratitude to the venue, the Flying Saucer, and plans for future events.
Bullet Points:
– The podcast features guests from the oil and gas industry, discussing current trends and topics.
– Warren Buffett’s continued investment in oil and gas stocks despite the energy transition narrative is highlighted.
– Discussion on the challenges and limitations of electric vehicles and their impact on the oil and gas industry.
– The environmental disaster of a cargo ship carrying EVs catching fire raises concerns about EV safety and pollution.
– The hosts express their gratitude to the venue and city for allowing the podcast to be recorded on-site.
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3 Podcasters Walk into a Bar Live at the Flying Saucer EP 31 – Navigating Energy Horizons: Oil & Gas Perspectives and the Electric Future
Stuart Turley [00:00:15] Hello Everybody, Welcome Today. Today is just not a great day it’s a fabulous day because I’m here with two of the best compadres on the planet. Welcome to the 3 Podcast Walk into the Bar.
Stuart Turley [00:00:27] My name’s Stuart Turley President of the Sandstone Group, and I get two some really cool Padres here. Ever had that weird uncle that had a Christmas party he would start saying, These 3 guys walk into a bar I got two guys right here. We got RT. RTis the head honcho over their PACOS Operating and he has The Crude Truth Podcast. Welcome RT how are you?
Rey Trevino [00:00:53] Oh, I’m doing well thank you for having me back and I can’t believe this bar allowed us to come back for the second time in a row.
Stuart Turley [00:01:01] Calm Down
David Blackmon [00:01:02] They have very low standards here that’s all I can say.
Rey Trevino [00:01:03] Yes. The standards here must be low below three in here I’ll tell you what.
Stuart Turley [00:01:07] Absolutely. And then we have the David Blackmon, not only the David Blackmon but the David Blackmon. And I mean, you are a Forbes contributing author, you have the Energy Question, you have the Energy Absurdity of the Day, you have The Energy Transition International Version and you also are now in the number three of the Black Oil Influence.
David Blackmon [00:01:35] Hey Man, I was number two.
Stuart Turley [00:01:37] I was Number Two. Your Numbers Three I want to give a shout-out to Black Mountain
David Blackmon [00:01:42] You’re number nine.
Rey Trevino [00:01:43] Yeah, you’re number nine.
Stuart Turley [00:01:45] I’m just glad I made the list, guys.
David Blackmon [00:01:47] I think they got you and me reversed.
Rey Trevino [00:01:49] No, no, I think they got. I think they messed up by just putting me in the top 10
Stuart Turley [00:01:53] And it is cool I am not to brag I did have eight of the top people now eight of the everybody there I interviewed, including myself, because I talked to myself.
Rey Trevino [00:02:03] You do. Do we worry about that Stu
Stuart Turley [00:02:06] With that we got an action-packed discussion here. I mean, we’ve got some things going on, David, let’s kick it off to you first.
David Blackmon [00:02:14] Oh, so what was I going to talk about? Oh, yeah. Warren Buffett, Warren Buffett is, I want to talk about this, right? Well, he’s continuing to buy oil and gas stocks.
Rey Trevino [00:02:24] No, but we’re transitioning out of it. I thought.
David Blackmon [00:02:26] Well, that’s what I thought, too. And the Biden administration keeps saying, we’re going to get rid of it in ten years. Right? But Bloomberg writes a story on Tuesday that is wondering why Warren Buffett continues to buy oil and gas stocks.
Stuart Turley [00:02:40] Right.
David Blackmon [00:02:41] So I answered Bloomberg’s Question in The Daily CALLER the next day. And, you know, I mean, it’s kind of obvious, right? If all the gas was the top-performing sector in the whole stock market in 2022, it’s continuing to perform well in 2023.
David Blackmon [00:02:59] Josh Yang over at Bison Interest says it’s incredibly undervalued the oil and gas stocks are very undervalued. And you know, the narrative, the Energy Transition narrative says, well, it’s all going to go away in ten years and, you know, they’re going to have all these stranded assets.
David Blackmon [00:03:17] But what does Warren Buffett continuing to buy up, you know, shares of Oxy, shares of Chevron, shares of Conoco Phillips, and on and on and on. What does that tell us? It tells us that just like the executives at the oil and gas companies, the big investors don’t believe any of that stuff.
Stuart Turley [00:03:34] Right.
David Blackmon [00:03:35] Nobody’s buying the stranded assets, not assets, they’re not going to be stranded assets we’re going to keep using oil and gas for 50 years. I had interviewed I’ve interviewed two CEOs in the service industries for oil and gas and I can’t say who they are just in the last two weeks, they both told me they believe their company will still be in business 50 years from now.
Stuart Turley [00:04:00] Right.
David Blackmon [00:04:01] Well, so that’s why Warren Buffett is continuing to invest in these undervalued oil and gas stocks.
Stuart Turley [00:04:08] Wow.
David Blackmon [00:04:09] And, you know, if Warren Buffett’s investing in it, then that’s what I want to do, too. Right? And so I need to call my investment adviser to get me into more oil and gas stocks.
Rey Trevino [00:04:20] You know, you mentioned these stocks and how they’re undervalued right now. You know, as an NPR operator or as an MP and operator, you know, I’ve done nothing but watch oil basically go from $70 to 80 in the past 14 days.
David Blackmon [00:04:35] Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:04:35] So it’s not quite at 88, at 79, and change as we record today. And it’s like it just makes no sense that oil’s going up and it still seems undervalued right now.
David Blackmon [00:04:47] Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:04:48] You know, Do you guys still think that we may see $100 oil this year? I’m definitely not thinking it, but y’all think so?
David Blackmon [00:04:57] I think Brant could get there. I think Brant could get there sometime in September, or October timeframe. And, you know, WTI just depends on. What happens the rest of the year? But, you know, the market itself is firming up China’s growth, there was an optimistic report about that here on Monday. So, you know, if China continues to increase its economic growth and we don’t have another global pandemic of any kind. Yeah, I could see that.
Stuart Turley [00:05:27] Well, with the Fed let me ask this, because demand is always a critical feature of this, the 25 points are they going to do another 25? How is the market going to react?
David Blackmon [00:05:38] Oh on the interest rate increase? Yeah
Stuart Turley [00:05:41] Because if the market tanks recession kicks in, right, there goes demand.
David Blackmon [00:05:48] Right.
Rey Trevino [00:05:48] Right.
David Blackmon [00:05:49] And so and that’s always the wild card. Right.
Stuart Turley [00:05:51] It is a huge wildcard. But what I think about Warren Buffett and BP and Shell, they’re all I mean, the massive run from renewable projects is in full swing. I mean, they are doing them that they’re downscaling them.
David Blackmon [00:06:10] Right when they were upscaling investment in the core business.
Stuart Turley [00:06:11] Upscaling the thing and 70% of the increase in CapEx is going to Africa. I mean, there is a ton of drilling activity going on in Africa.
David Blackmon [00:06:26] And South America, too. You know, if you’re ExxonMobil and Apache.
Stuart Turley [00:06:30] Right.
David Blackmon [00:06:31] Yes, But yeah. The other point to make about Warren Buffett while we’re talking about this is he’s not just investing in any oil and gas companies. He’s investing in big shale producers. Yes. In the Permian Basin. Right? Chevron, Oxy, and Conoco Phillips, are some of the biggest players in the Permian Basin.
Stuart Turley [00:06:53] You know, is he doing any in the Marcellus?
David Blackmon [00:06:58] I don’t know. He may have that in his portfolio, but that’s not what’s making the news. I don’t know what his whole portfolio is.
Rey Trevino [00:07:04] Let me ask you all this. Wasn’t it didn’t Chevron and Oxy go after Anadarko a few years ago and Oxy won that bid?
David Blackmon [00:07:12] Oxy? Yeah. Oxy outbid Chevron and Warren Buffett came in with $10 billion backing that investment.
Rey Trevino [00:07:19] Right. And so I find it interesting that right now here he is investing in Chevron and Oxy.
David Blackmon [00:07:26] Right.
Rey Trevino [00:07:27] And Conoco of like that kind of makes me wonder. I mean.
David Blackmon [00:07:30] Well, he has a big stake in ConocoPhillips before he bought the big steak in Oxy
Rey Trevino [00:07:34] And when you look, ConocoPhillips has already merged. Right. You see, obviously, ConocoPhillips. You know, when you go back and look at the history, I believe, and, you know, hey, fact-checkers out there, please double-check. But, you know, I think Chevron is a very, very distant cousin or relative of standard, and so is Exxon and Mobile.
Rey Trevino [00:07:56] So, I mean, it’d be really interesting to see what he does if down the road he wants to combine the Chevron and Oxy thing. But, I mean, if you buy a stock, I don’t know. I mean, I just, you know, I mean, other than buying stocks right now, I know it’s just a real interesting time to definitely be buying them I guess it’s the best thing to say.
Stuart Turley [00:08:15] You know, the energy of all types is where you want to put your money.
David Blackmon [00:08:19] Yeah,.
Stuart Turley [00:08:20] Commodities and energy in a depression get people rich.
Rey Trevino [00:08:23] Right.
David Blackmon [00:08:24] Right. And now you have all these subsidies going into the renewable space and so, you know, that just helps increase the value of those stocks.
Stuart Turley [00:08:33] And so on the global market, what do you think? Okay. I ask you this. You had an excellent article. What was that article about?
Rey Trevino [00:08:41] Oh, yes. I wrote an article about how with the transition to electric vehicles, how can oil and gas adapt to the future and, you know, there’s definitely probably more of a market in places like China and Asia.
Rey Trevino [00:08:59] And correct me if I’m wrong again, for electric vehicles that there are here in America. Plus, you know, we can’t afford them. Not everybody can afford them here. So I don’t see how technically an electric vehicle today or tomorrow or even five years from now can truly impact the combustion engine and the purchase and sale of gasoline around the world.
David Blackmon [00:09:22] I don’t I don’t think you can either and I think increasingly people are beginning to understand that.
Stuart Turley [00:09:29] That’s why they got lots full of everywhere.
David Blackmon [00:09:31] Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:09:32] Well, I mean well, not only that, but I mean, when it’s with a low-end vehicle and this is kind of true anywhere, but when a low-end electric vehicle is now 50 or $60,000, that’s a lot of money.
Rey Trevino [00:09:45] But of course, then I did read a report that said, I think in the last five years, all vehicle costs have gone up 30% that’s a chunk of change. And I just don’t know how the average American can handle that right now, especially with the fact that we don’t have, you know, with the inflation where it is, and obviously, wages have not gone up.
Rey Trevino [00:10:05] And that. Could be part of the, you know, the right side or left side schtick is we need to raise a minimum wage to fight this. But, you know, once again, once you raise the minimum wage, that means the cost of everything else goes up again.
David Blackmon [00:10:17] Right.
Stuart Turley [00:10:17] You know, I think you’re on to something and I really want an electric vehicle when the batteries are recyclable when they’re not going to blow up on your house. I just looked in an article this morning, there is a cargo ship coming. I can’t remember where it was.
David Blackmon [00:10:41] It’s out on the Pacific Ocean it’s burning up and burning up and 3 people have been killed.
Stuart Turley [00:10:45] 3,000 cars on that and they’re burning so intense it’s going to be 100%. Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:10:54] So, okay, let’s talk about this article. What is the gist? It’s obviously there’s a cargo ship with electric vehicles in the Pacific Ocean that’s burning right now.
David Blackmon [00:11:02] An EV Battery blew up and started a Fire
Stuart Turley [00:11:05] There is no way that you’re going to be able to put it out.
Rey Trevino [00:11:07] Wow.
David Blackmon [00:11:08] And you can’t put it out.
Rey Trevino [00:11:09] No, you can’t. It’s too hot.
David Blackmon [00:11:11] The Ship is going to sink they got to get everybody out
Stuart Turley [00:11:13] Okay. So I was going to have a crayon for today and I ran out of time. So on an average car, there are tons and tons of critical Earth minerals that are required just to build
David Blackmon [00:11:30] In an EV you’re talking about.
Stuart Turley [00:11:31] Yeah. Just to build it. So if you had 3000 cars with all that I was trying to figure out with a crayon, I went to Oklahoma State so that’s a little tough. But I was going to figure out how many tons to the bottom of the ocean and then all the pollutants because the poison that it burns off this thing is not an eco-friendly crash.
David Blackmon [00:11:56] So it’s an environmental disaster and we’ll see if the news media bothers to cover it.
Rey Trevino [00:12:02] I hope so,.
David Blackmon [00:12:03] Because it’s a preferred industry.
Stuart Turley [00:12:05] Yeah. If this was exactly my point.
David Blackmon [00:12:06] Yeah. This was internal combustion engine cars and that fire had been caused by an internal combustion engine blowing up, you know, filled with a gas leak this would be front-page news in every newspaper in America. But.
Stuart Turley [00:12:19] Right.
David Blackmon [00:12:19] It’s an EV ship Filled with EVs, and you got to go to secondary and tertiary news sources to even read about it. Now,.
Stuart Turley [00:12:28] It was on the way from Germany to Egypt.
David Blackmon [00:12:30] From Germany to Egypt. Okay. So it’s in the Atlantic.
Rey Trevino [00:12:33] Oh, okay.
Stuart Turley [00:12:34] Yeah.
Rey Trevino [00:12:34] Well, I mean, you talk about front page news and I hate to bring it up, but I know the Houston Chronicle had a horrific picture of an oil well, a Pumpjack unit. Those are for those that don’t want to go up and down, you know, And yeah, as you see me here.
Stuart Turley [00:12:53] He waved at us
Rey Trevino [00:12:53] Looks like I’m waving. And there was a trail of oil in the picture. It looks like the aerial view. And from what I could just see, it looked like he was actually there trying to say it was an abandoned well,.
David Blackmon [00:13:07] Yeah. A long-abandoned well
Rey Trevino [00:13:08] And it could be but I’m, I, I as an operator, I don’t see a lot of abandoned wells like that that would have a trail of oil just sitting there
David Blackmon [00:13:18] Wonder about that.
Rey Trevino [00:13:19] Yeah, I kind of wonder about that picture myself and you know, I do know that the state of Texas is one of the leading places in the world that has clean oil and gas regulations.
Rey Trevino [00:13:33] And what I mean by that is one where the most were very strict and stringent next to Colorado, I think we’re number two and two. What I mean by that is that we follow these stricken stringent rules to the cross t and dotted I.
Rey Trevino [00:13:48] In fact, I had a great opportunity to talk to somebody there in Austin and foreign countries actually come to the state of Texas to find out how we produce clean oil and gas here.
David Blackmon [00:14:02] Yeah,.
Rey Trevino [00:14:02] So we are the standard when it comes to the world so that picture and again, it had to do with abandoned wells.
Stuart Turley [00:14:12] Right?
Rey Trevino [00:14:12] You know, I just would like.
David Blackmon [00:14:14] It’s out somewhere in the Permian, Right?
Rey Trevino [00:14:15] Oh, who, who knows? I mean, it could have been anywhere.
Stuart Turley [00:14:18] Yeah that could have been an I altered, you know,.
Rey Trevino [00:14:22] Man. You all talk about that. Okay, sidetrack.
Stuart Turley [00:14:26] Squirrel.
David Blackmon [00:14:27] Squirrel.
Rey Trevino [00:14:28] Okay. Have you all seen the new iPhones where you can take a picture and you can hold down a part of the picture that you want to take out of the picture?
Stuart Turley [00:14:38] Right.
Rey Trevino [00:14:38] And so there’s no background, no nothing to if you’ve got like a real cool kid coming down a slide and on a playground and all you want is the kid,.
Stuart Turley [00:14:47] Right?
Rey Trevino [00:14:47] You can pull the kid.
Stuart Turley [00:14:49] Out of the picture and you’re still on a flip path. Well, I know it’s magic. I know that is magic.
Rey Trevino [00:14:57] You leave my flip phone alone son, I like my flip phones and if any of my friends are listening, they know that I have had flip phones since 1999 when Nokia came out with they got rid of the brick and they added just that little extra part to it.
Stuart Turley [00:15:12] My great friends.
David Blackmon [00:15:14] Now I used to have one of those.
Stuart Turley [00:15:15] Technology challenge dude the technology. You and my Wife that you are doing better. I have to admit.
David Blackmon [00:15:22] It’s really kind of embarrassing that I’m more high-tech than he is except my..
Rey Trevino [00:15:26] That one Today
David Blackmon [00:15:27] Yeah men
Stuart Turley [00:15:28] Those 3 Podcasters…
David Blackmon [00:15:28] Got kids over it and this guy
Stuart Turley [00:15:30] Oh, yeah, I got underwear older than both of you.
Rey Trevino [00:15:33] Oh, man. Yeah,.
David Blackmon [00:15:35] We’re not talking underwear.
Rey Trevino [00:15:36] We’re not talking underwear today Stu
Stuart Turley [00:15:37] Okay. Sorry.
Rey Trevino [00:15:38] No, no. Okay. I had to tell them. No, They were going to bring him a fresh pair.
Stuart Turley [00:15:43] Right around the house.
Rey Trevino [00:15:47] Speaking of on the house, shout out again to the flying saucer here in Fort Worth. We are back here again this week thank you very much to Josh, the general manager, and Mike, the manager for allowing us to come back out here for a second time. This is great, guys. This is awesome.
Stuart Turley [00:16:05] I’m looking forward to some events in September that we’re going to have as a team and really start figuring out where we’re going on site, taking it, the roadshow.
Rey Trevino [00:16:17] The well, I tell you, you know, it’s just really a great time. And I mean, here we are. We can kind of get off track a little bit just like we do when we’re all each in our due tour in your bunkers. But man, to get you two out here, I mean.
David Blackmon [00:16:30] Yeah, it’s hard getting me out of.
Rey Trevino [00:16:31] It is hard.
Rey Trevino [00:16:32] And so for two weeks in a row thank you, guys. And thank you again to the city of Fort Worth for letting us come back out and to the flying saucer.
Stuart Turley [00:16:40] Oh, you bet.
Rey Trevino [00:16:41] So. But though, you know, the other thing I want to touch on just in normal political news is that you’ll hear about President Obama’s chef dying in eight feet of water, that was like a 45-year-old male that knew how to swim, but he died. That’s kind of.
Stuart Turley [00:16:57] Where’s the punchline here?
Rey Trevino [00:16:58] There is no punchline.
David Blackmon [00:16:59] I don’t think that’s the same way I want to. Clinton chefs died too.
Stuart Turley [00:17:03] No way.
David Blackmon [00:17:05] Not kidding.
Rey Trevino [00:17:05] But my question is, what the heck does a chef know?
David Blackmon [00:17:09] all I know is chefs need to stay out of water
Rey Trevino [00:17:13] Yeah, well, I mean.
David Blackmon [00:17:14] Was not going there guys
Rey Trevino [00:17:15] Im not going there, but I just. I just want to know, what does a chef know? Like, I mean, he cooks facilities in the background. People dying at the borders to get to this country it’s so great. And yet we have people in power that are weakening us every day.
David Blackmon [00:24:23] That’s true, That’s a true story, and doing it intentionally.
Rey Trevino [00:24:26] Intentionally? Yeah. Yeah.
David Blackmon [00:24:30] Sorry, I’m not going to mince words about that. It’s intentional. You know, if you call them merely stupid and naive, you let them off the hook. Well, these are not stupid and naive people.
Rey Trevino [00:24:39] They want to level the playing field and that’s not. I’m sorry. You know what? In fact, I had a great interview with Matthew Lowenstein of FSC Inc, a survey company for the oil and gas industry.
Rey Trevino [00:24:54] And it’s like we talked about how the will to work has gone and that participation trophies and just letting people slide is where this whole thing started. It’s like, I’m sorry, we’re here to win we’re here to be on top.
Rey Trevino [00:25:07] You know, somebody has to be first and unfortunately, somebody does have to be last. And I don’t want America to be last in all those people that are trying to get here, they want to be first. And I admire that. Now they do figure out a better way to come back, but they’re literally dying to get to this great nation.
Stuart Turley [00:25:23] Well. I’m not going to disagree with anything you guys just said because I agree. And I’ve got about 19 other things that I would love to add to it
Rey Trevino [00:25:33] If this was and if this was a Southpark episode, I’d be going they took my Job
David Blackmon [00:25:38] Would be seeing it about Kyle’s mom.
Rey Trevino [00:25:40] Oh, yes, Kyle. Yes, we were in Canada.
Stuart Turley [00:25:42] They killed Kenny.
Rey Trevino [00:25:44] Killed Kenny.
Stuart Turley [00:25:45] I love that one, but. Okay. What’s coming around the corner for you, David?
David Blackmon [00:25:50] Oh, man, We just did a deal, and I can’t. Can’t talk about it in detail right now, but we’re going to be doing a six-part six-episode podcast series, six-episode podcast series about the power grid and the crisis with power transformers on our power grid and what it means for America.
David Blackmon [00:26:11] And that’s going to start up in August, and I’m really looking forward to doing that we got a great new sponsor for that six six-part series and we’ll be rolling that out in the next week or two.
Stuart Turley [00:26:21] Congratulations!.
Rey Trevino [00:26:23] That’s awesome how many books we should read beforehand or with that, give it away.
David Blackmon [00:26:27] Yeah. Read Oh my gosh Shorting the grid. It’s Shorting the grid.
Stuart Turley [00:26:34] Merideth Anguine
Rey Trevino [00:26:36] Crude Truth you’ve had her on, and so have you, right?
Stuart Turley [00:26:39] Yeah, you’re just a slacker.
David Blackmon [00:26:38] . You got to get her on she is fantastic
Rey Trevino [00:26:41] I got to read that book. And then there’s another gentleman that I’ve got to read a book that I want to have on the show that but we will talk about that
David Blackmon [00:26:48] Brutal lines?
Rey Trevino [00:26:49] Brutal minds Yes
Stuart Turley [00:26:50] Yes.
David Blackmon [00:26:51] What’s his last name?
Stuart Turley [00:26:53] Stanly Ridgely
Rey Trevino [00:26:54] Stanly Ridge.
Stuart Turley [00:26:56] Oh, shoot.
Rey Trevino [00:26:57] Excuse me sorry.
Stuart Turley [00:26:58] It’s been kicking off on my side.
David Blackmon [00:27:00] Yeah, that’s a frightening book and I’m halfway through it, and I’m scared to finish it.
Rey Trevino [00:27:06] Wow.
Stuart Turley [00:27:06] Now he is fantastic yeah, I really appreciate that one. So.
Rey Trevino [00:27:11] Well, first of all, again, I want to say thank you to the flying saucer for hosting us again here in Fort Worth, but also the Black Mountain Oil and Gas for putting us somehow on. I mean, thank you, guys. It’s very humbling.
Rey Trevino [00:27:23] You know, I learned the other day that it’s okay to say thank you and thank you. Yes. Oh, and so thank you to them for putting us on the list with some great people on there. Oh, JP Irena.
David Blackmon [00:27:35] Steve, Alex Epstein.
Rey Trevino [00:27:37] Alex Epstein’s on. Remember Robert Bryce is on there. So I mean, what a great group, and there’s even more out there so just so I’m sure that was fun or something so but thank you guys very much for putting us on it.
Rey Trevino [00:27:50] But no, be on the lookout. Got another great episode of The Crew Truth. I’ve got one out right now with Debra Wald, which kind of changed my whole look on ESG, especially for oil and gas it is.
Rey Trevino [00:28:00] And then I mentioned Matthew Lowenstein with FSC Inc, another great entrepreneur. So be looking for more episodes in there for me. Also, I’ll be at my new studio in Austin for a couple, so be on the lookout visually for those. So very excited.
Stuart Turley [00:28:14] Congratulations you’ve got a bunch of great stuff going on
Rey Trevino [00:28:16] What about you Stu?
David Blackmon [00:28:17] How about you Stu?.
Stuart Turley [00:28:18] I got a lot of good stuff going on, just trying to keep the old nose to the grindstone. I’m hearing a lot of stuff out there about ESG investors, in real estate investing, and people are kind of nervous. And so they’re looking for tax deductions because taxes are coming around the corner dude
Rey Trevino [00:28:36] Yes, they.
Stuart Turley [00:28:37] Are. And I’m talking to a bunch of folks about that. So with that, hey, Subscribe Like Follow these guys and if you have time, follow me. But again, thank you all very much for stopping by 3 Podcasters Walk into the Bar, We will see you next time.
David Blackmon [00:28:53] Bartender. Bartender.
Rey Trevino [00:28:54] Bartender. Adios